Philosophy the intellectual description of why and what for we are; and art the symbol of that same idea. Like Barishnikov dancing with Gelsey Kirkland, or Sasha Cohen skating with Evgeny Plushenko - showing us the best of what people can do. So too perhaps with Vermeer in painting, or Michelangelo in sculpture. And with us as writers.
I'm in agreement with Mike Covey when he writes "art and philosophy are the same thing.. Hawken's piece. The art of expressing what one thinks about the world thru words or imaging is the same inspired route we take, leaving behind a record of our times to a future generation. Art in all it's forms, especially visual art paintings , the written word poems, philosophies, religions and architecture are the only remains of our distant past that is uncovered thru archeological digs. If it wasn't for art who would we be..?
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We are the results of our creations and the abilities to use our creativity to leave behind a record of what we were to our progeny as every generation before us has done. Those who were unable to create left us nothing to build upon. Very well-written article by Tim Harken. Translating is considered an art form in their world, and some are great, some ain't.
Why do you want to stay alive? But aint art just to parody crass-isity. Warhol done did that summarizing 3 hunert year of American dream as a can of instant soup. Art is to show us what we can be. I mention in book review at The Guardian, ant art in the form of great tower sculpture. Gelsey Kirkland so graceful, training decades to jump like a deer jumping barb wire fence. Do you? Good pick up on the link between Sartre and Heidegger's ideas of 'facticity' and 'the being of existing reality'.follow url
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There is crossover for the ideas, however, they're not exactly the same. For me Sartre was more about how we react to our facticity as a focus, that we always have choice in that the basis for his existentialism. Heidegger's idea of being and time revolves around the idea that history makes us who we are and seperating entities from the 'reality' that surrounds us. To be honest, I'm not totally sure who first came up with the idea.
Perhaps they were both influenced by someone else! Foucault has some great points on this as well. Although he certainly was influenced by these two predecessors. I don't want to pretend to be an expert in this, but I think the topic would make a great essay and may look into it further, at the very least to satisfy my own curiosity.
As an aside The Oresteia is one of my favourite set of Greek plays and am always looking for a fresh perspective on it. Tim, I'll look for the Aeschylus, but to find anything in my house aint gonna be easy. But on that note, I found what little I've read of Heidegger to be easy reading, like Nietzsche. And Aristotle near impossible. But as Mr. Asher would say, can we all agree that Kierkegaard is obtuse to the nth degree? Even Asher himself will agree that Kierkegaard's writings are obtuse That's sick. Planet, we have to do better than that. And yeah Aristotle's work on Posterior Analytics is one of the toughest things I've had to read, Mike.
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Music is given being in-the-world and through-the-world, so if it has any effects or power, it must be reflected as such, both for the creator and any listener, if any. Music might not have an apparent semiotic structure though it also can but it can certainly be narrative, romantic, etc whether or not it has lyrics. I agree that Heidegger's most original contribution to an aesthetic philosophy is his denial of aesthetics-as-art. Even if you can't pinpoint the difference, I think it's easy to experience something starkly different in aesthetics of clothing, or advertising, or a cup of yogurt with a nice graphic design than you would with art.
Art often announces itself, speaks itself into being through an intersubjective experience that stands apart from the world and creates a world, or an "event" according to Badiou , which is much different than Kant's subjective signifiers of taste that constitute aesthetics. As for the obscurantist discussion, well I got into Heidegger through this piece by researching his influence on Terrence Malick. Malick taught Heidegger at Harvard, and I think the philosophy is readily available in "The Tree of Life", a movie that I absolutely romance Oh and I wrote a piece about it, not suggesting that my writing's all too hot but the primary sources are good I think.
Needed to flesh out the idea of "spirit" more, which was unclearly harkening back to Hegel. I really love Heidegger's philosophy because is very original in both terms. I think The Origin of the work of art one of the most difficult things to read because is hermetic and refers all the time to other elements of his philosophy that isnt in this text. To understand it we might read his criticism to the conceps of what he call metaphysics, also to understand why he writes in that way. I see a large influence of the presocratic philosophy in him and Aristotle too.
To me, Heideigger is criticising the metaphysic way that we concieve the bein when treating as an ent. So, he created a sistem that cannot work of the corrent terms that we are used to, the sistem that we intelectually addequate the thins to a teory to assume his true and to respond objectfully to the world. This is the difficulty that we might felt in his texts. So we have to incurse with him in this philosophy of art like a movement, a moment that Heraclito says to us. I also agree with the idea o word as historical passage, but like a time.
Ive never read this text in this form, thank you for this contribution.
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Usseling Leuven Membres: L. Marx Freiburg i. Ricoeur Paris , E. The Classical Conceptions of Beauty and Art. As well as the being-with-them this thinking of the things is a spatial one, pervading and getting through space. Thus "it belongs to the nature of our thinking of that bridge that in itself thinking gets through, persists through, the distance to that place. Gel, 45 The space of nearness and remoteness is the openness within which - as we already learned - things may concern us, come up against us, encounter us.
I want to make a short and tangential remark here. Space is intended in this meaning when Heidegger says in "Das Wesen der Sprache", that it "gives room to localities and places, gives them free and releases into them". WS, In "Bauen Wohnen Denken" this space as such sometimes is indicated by the difference of space singular to the spaces plural. For example: "When we are attentive to these relations between place and spaces, between spaces and space then we gain a starting point for thinking about the relationship of humans and space.
We return to the bridge. In "Die Kunst und der Raum", 15 years later, Heidegger says more comprehensively "that things themselves are the places and not only belong to places. In any case, we have to notice that already in "Bauen Wohnen Denken" Heidegger emphasizes that the bridge " itself is a place". By being a bridge it itself provides and generates a place.
That the bridge is not only at a place but is a place, and that it is this place by gathering the fourfold of the world, makes evident that its nature - as well as the nature of place - extends beyond itself or further than itself in an analogous, yet not identical way as humans do, although of course not identical to this. It grants a "space into which earth and heaven, divinities and mortals are admitted.
Once again it becomes evident how great, in Heidegger's thinking, is the importance of occurring of the world, in the meaning of the moving in and the arriving of the world into the here and now of the being together of things, and of the human stay with things.
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The work of art too - for example the painted bridge - as well as the real bridge in the countryside grants places: the work of art - while it corporealizes them as such places and thereby lets us see the mode or manner, in which they open and preserve the region for the whiling of things and for the dwelling of humans cf. KR, 11 ; the bridge-thing - while it allows the mutual occurring of region and place, of world and things to be itself.
The difference between them consists, among others, in the explicitness or, in other words, in the development or articulation of the occurring itself. World is world when humans in their staying with things bring - by habiting and preserving - earth and heaven, divinities and mortals into their place. Works of art are excellent, special things that let us view this world-occurring as such , while they give a place to it by and in themselves.
Thus we could perhaps say that works of art are places for the very places.
It is this fact that Heidegger expresses by nominating the works of art the corporealizations of places. I remind you of a sentence from the "Bemerkungen" that I quoted earlier: "Sculpture would be the corporealization of places, that - in opening and preserving a region - gather around them something free which grants a whiling to the particular things and a dwelling to the human beings in the midst of things.
Hence it seems to become impossible to say strictly that only the works of art, here the sculptures, are a bringing-into-the-work of the truth of Being in the sense of an original letting-be. They rather are the corporealization, the bringing-into-an-image, of something already brought to space by things.
With these words Heidegger probably wants to point out other modes of art, especially poetry.